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lxe 2 minutes ago [-]
Oh, fantastic, thank you. If this allows me to drop files onto an iPhone without me having to open an app, that would solve a lot of my issues. I use localsend right now and although I really love it, it still requires me to always keep the app open on the phone.
pzmarzly 2 hours ago [-]
> Personally, I think putting an interoperability protocol implementation behind a copyleft license is a little unfortunate!
Huh, haven't thought of it. Just relicensed ancs4linux to MIT.
voakbasda 2 hours ago [-]
I love HN. Read an article that raises a reasonable point about a project’s license, and that project’s author shows up to announce they were convinced and changed the license accordingly. Repo was updated 5 minutes ago.
It’s things like this that give me hope for the world.
stackghost 1 hours ago [-]
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kian 50 minutes ago [-]
So I'm guessing you don't do anything except what matters to billions of people? Always 100% fully generalized contributions, never making your local world a better place? Your only local contributions being to tell off people who are grateful that their lives are materially improved by someone else's smaller actions... You must be beloved by your community.
kaonwarb 57 minutes ago [-]
Making one small corner of the world a little bit better is a good thing. There's not much use in complaining that it's not as big of an impact as could hypothetically be achieved on some larger issues.
stackghost 53 minutes ago [-]
It's things like this that rob my of my hope for the world.
literallyroy 36 minutes ago [-]
I saw someone smile at the park the other day, do you think you could talk to them for me?
yard2010 31 minutes ago [-]
Not GP but I feel like that's kinda their point - the fact that we still have this platform to collaborate in such an organic way is truly remarkable and must not be taken for granted.
rewgs 57 minutes ago [-]
You are indeed being a Debbie Downer.
59 minutes ago [-]
kees99 2 hours ago [-]
Isn't this[0] the use-case that is supposedly covered by LGPL?
[0] copyleft-licensed library that could be legally linked into non-copyleft code base.
LinuxIsntVeryGo 2 hours ago [-]
Copyleft licenses are freedom-negative, so MIT covers it pretty well: do what you want.
b40d-48b2-979e 1 hours ago [-]
Those poor multi-trillion dollar companies that can't use copyleft projects, whatever will they do?
tadfisher 29 minutes ago [-]
Write copyleft software?
voakbasda 2 hours ago [-]
Mega-kudos to the author for chipping away at the wall around Apple’s garden.
I have had a iPhone for 15 years, and I have only ever been able to back it up with iTunes on windows (as I will never buy a Mac).
Apple’s refusal to provide interoperability borders on criminal. I wish there was a better option.
Over the years, I have tried to make that solution work, but it never ever went smoothly.
Maybe it’s time to try it again, but it’s an arms race from what I remember. Apple just keeps changing things; if you’re on the latest iOS version, it was unlikely to work. Has that changed?
timcobb 58 minutes ago [-]
Pixel is nice, in my opinion better than iOS, and more open for now
sneak 1 hours ago [-]
You could stop using iMessage and iCloud.
Rohansi 37 minutes ago [-]
Green bubbles, WhatsApp, Signal, etc. are not an option for a lot of people. I don't get it either.
agoodusername63 33 minutes ago [-]
Because techies on average aren't socially popular enough to get anybody to make any effort to msg them on a better platform.
nvme0n1p1 7 minutes ago [-]
Speak for yourself
agoodusername63 3 minutes ago [-]
Ok! I don't use iMessage because people I want to talk to are happy to install a new app to do so. :)
k4rli 31 minutes ago [-]
Or leave the walled garden entirely. GrapheneOS has all the same stuff.
LinuxIsntVeryGo 2 hours ago [-]
Why do you think Apple should be compelled to provide software for operating systems without a sizable audience? Why do you feel entitled to support for Linux?
voakbasda 2 hours ago [-]
Because they provide a platform. Platforms are not normal products. Once a product becomes a platform, the rules should change to force interoperability. This should be true no matter the product or technology.
SadTrombone 1 hours ago [-]
Nobody's asking Apple to provide anything. We just want them to stop sending cease and desists to developers who do provide said thing.
cassianoleal 2 hours ago [-]
They don't have to add support. All they need is APIs and documentation.
LinuxIsntVeryGo 2 hours ago [-]
That's effectively the same thing.
cassianoleal 1 hours ago [-]
No it's not.
jonhohle 37 minutes ago [-]
Do you think it costs nothing to provide stable APIs and write documentation?
cassianoleal 24 minutes ago [-]
No. Why would I think that?
jonathanwallace 51 minutes ago [-]
This is incredibly timely as I moved my first choice personal computer to full time linux this week (and am a long time iPhone user who loves the autofill as well). I'll be happily contributing when I find an itch that needs to be scratched.
desireco42 6 minutes ago [-]
I have Google Fi, we always had messages.google.com to even get calls, which I never did. Convenient especially because I write longer messages.
Never felt superiour over others for it.
teo_zero 31 minutes ago [-]
This is for iPhones only. Do I assume correctly that the issue is solved for Android, instead?
phrotoma 18 minutes ago [-]
Also curious. I keep messages.google.com in a pinned tab but the number of times I have to go find my phone and re-authenticate is too damned high.
bigyabai 8 minutes ago [-]
On Android, you can use KDE Connect on KDE and GSConnect on GNOME. It has a Messaging app that syncs with your phone's SMS.
kvemkon 58 minutes ago [-]
Is there an easy way to share iOS clipboard to Linux directly using local WiFi without going through any cloud?
"Easy" is subjective, but tether seems like it would do this? There is also kdeconnect (don't let the "KDE" fool you).
kvemkon 14 minutes ago [-]
That's what I thought at first but then discovered:
> universal clipboard is synchronized over internet, it is not done trough cable connection. it uses apple continuity service, what you put into UC is uploaded into apple cloud,..
Literally OP does this. It doesn't share it automatically like iOS-to-macOS integration but you open the app, click a button - job done.
SoftTalker 2 hours ago [-]
Wasn't there another iMessage clone for Linux/Android a few years back and they got a C&D from Apple? Or maybe Apple just blocked their service?
jnovek 1 hours ago [-]
There’s bluebubbles which runs a server on a Mac and syncs your messages that way.
aaronax 1 hours ago [-]
Beeper?
SoftTalker 1 hours ago [-]
Yes that sounds right.
porridgeraisin 1 hours ago [-]
I use whatsapp primarily, so no tethering needed, but SMS of course for one-time passwords and the like. I didn't want to open my phone for that. So I had a coding agent write an android background app for me that listens for SMS and forwards it to a discord server, and side loaded it. So now I get a discord notif on my laptop with the OTP.
internet_points 2 minutes ago [-]
there is also kde connect (or valent for the gnome UI)
select1 2 hours ago [-]
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2Gkashmiri 2 hours ago [-]
I don't know.
What's a feature not in KDE connect that the writer wanted and it didn't have?
They could always submit a pr.
Beeper exists you know....
I have a question. It's fine to build for your own self but is it okay to release something in public when the environment is a moving target and you are just a one-man team keeping it afloat?
Wouldn't it be better to go behind established FOSS products and not reinvent the wheel when you don't have to?
I understand no one can tell you how to or why to do certain things but there comes a time, when youw want to help, not build the next temple os and instead help manjaro or whatever is cool these days?
cassianoleal 2 hours ago [-]
I find KDE Connect severely lacking. It's great that it exists, and maybe it's really excellent with Android, but for iOS it's really not there yet.
Even features that do exist don't always work reliably. I can't send files between devices, most of the time clipboard sharing doesn't work either, and there's loads not implemented.
> What's a feature not in KDE connect that the writer wanted and it didn't have?
From TFA:
"And Tether now supports: iMessage, SMS, Notifications, Contact sync on Linux. In addition to its previous: File Transfer, Clipboard Sync, OTP handling."
> Wouldn't it be better to go behind established FOSS products and not reinvent the wheel when you don't have to?
From TFA:
"Before you ask, I know KDE Connect exists. It's great! If you're on Android you should definitely use it. The problem is that it didn't do what I wanted and it's roadmap indicated it never would."
Maybe next time read the article before commenting?
foresto 4 minutes ago [-]
Let's be fair: At least some of the features you quoted do work in KDE connect in my experience, so I had the same question as GP. Even after reading the article.
Gualdrapo 1 hours ago [-]
One of the not cool things about KDE Connect is that its "plugins" system doesn't seem like it.
Where are more plugins for it? How you add them? Where are docs for creating them?
I haven't had a great feeling when asking its dev about stuff but hope that situation has changed. Having a proper plugin system would let people like OP extend KDEConnect and potentially benefit more people, instead of being subjected to the will of its devs and the roadmap.
alex7o 1 hours ago [-]
I would argue that if you have the same setup as the author then use it. Yes a moving target but won't you fix something you use for yourself? Also point an agent at it get it back working in a few hours of waiting :P
utopiah 2 hours ago [-]
Glad you brought that up, I was actually going to suggest not to replace KDE Connect but rather to become interoperable with it because AFAIR (but didn't touch an iPhone for few years now) there is no iOS client for it.
cpuguy83 27 minutes ago [-]
kdeconnect has an iOS client.
tamimio 2 hours ago [-]
Personally, few years ago I wanted to use kde connect with my iPhone, and I don’t remember the distro now but it’s when I had to install kde connect later it wasn’t part of it, and after almost a whole day of googling around and trying to compile and solve whatever missing libraries or drivers, it never connected.. so yeah I welcome the fact that there are alternatives, always!
Huh, haven't thought of it. Just relicensed ancs4linux to MIT.
It’s things like this that give me hope for the world.
[0] copyleft-licensed library that could be legally linked into non-copyleft code base.
I have had a iPhone for 15 years, and I have only ever been able to back it up with iTunes on windows (as I will never buy a Mac).
Apple’s refusal to provide interoperability borders on criminal. I wish there was a better option.
[0]: https://github.com/jkcoxson/idevice
[1]: https://github.com/danielpaulus/go-ios
[2]: https://github.com/doronz88/pymobiledevice3
Maybe it’s time to try it again, but it’s an arms race from what I remember. Apple just keeps changing things; if you’re on the latest iOS version, it was unlikely to work. Has that changed?
Never felt superiour over others for it.
Edit: clarification in my reply later in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49492003
> universal clipboard is synchronized over internet, it is not done trough cable connection. it uses apple continuity service, what you put into UC is uploaded into apple cloud,..
https://github.com/libimobiledevice/libimobiledevice/issues/...
That's why I'm a bit confused now.
> don't let the "KDE" fool you
Being GNOME2-then-MATE user, it really would.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tether-linux-companion/id67620...
What's a feature not in KDE connect that the writer wanted and it didn't have?
They could always submit a pr.
Beeper exists you know....
I have a question. It's fine to build for your own self but is it okay to release something in public when the environment is a moving target and you are just a one-man team keeping it afloat?
Wouldn't it be better to go behind established FOSS products and not reinvent the wheel when you don't have to?
I understand no one can tell you how to or why to do certain things but there comes a time, when youw want to help, not build the next temple os and instead help manjaro or whatever is cool these days?
Even features that do exist don't always work reliably. I can't send files between devices, most of the time clipboard sharing doesn't work either, and there's loads not implemented.
> What's a feature not in KDE connect that the writer wanted and it didn't have?
From TFA:
"And Tether now supports: iMessage, SMS, Notifications, Contact sync on Linux. In addition to its previous: File Transfer, Clipboard Sync, OTP handling."
> Wouldn't it be better to go behind established FOSS products and not reinvent the wheel when you don't have to?
From TFA:
"Before you ask, I know KDE Connect exists. It's great! If you're on Android you should definitely use it. The problem is that it didn't do what I wanted and it's roadmap indicated it never would."
Maybe next time read the article before commenting?
Where are more plugins for it? How you add them? Where are docs for creating them?
I haven't had a great feeling when asking its dev about stuff but hope that situation has changed. Having a proper plugin system would let people like OP extend KDEConnect and potentially benefit more people, instead of being subjected to the will of its devs and the roadmap.